I’ve been grabbing the camera with every coffee I make today, and I was stoked with this one, specifically the waves of espresso in the demitasse. Think I can feel another hobby/habit coming on …
Hey have you thought about taking the cover off the group handle spouts? Sam and I have done ours. It’s just one screw and means you can see the shot closer to the basket.
Michelle,
May 29, 2008:
Yeah I had, but wasn’t sure about the hole affecting the pour … I take it it doesn’t? I’ll have a crack.
I’m planning on getting my single group handle ‘converted’ to naked. It looks awesome and would make for some great photos!
Michelle,
May 30, 2008:
They look so awesome, don’t they Neil?
I haven’t used my naked PF in aaages. I used to use it exclusively, but stopped when I moved away from drinking milk in coffee. I reckon it tastes brilliant in milk, but I’m not a fan of naked ’spro, I don’t know why, whether it’s the taste or the texture …
Do you use a normal double basket or a triple?
Michelle,
May 30, 2008:
Ah, the single … another thing I am yet to master.
Michelle,
May 30, 2008:
Sorry Guthers, must’ve been typing (#9) at the same time as you, and so it looks like I skipped you, I didn’t mean to
I’m not at all offended!
There is a difference in taste for a naked pf? even with the same basket?!? wow!
I ‘never’ use the single. If I’m making a single coffee I usually take the opportunity to have a double ristretto and I find the single very tough to load and tamp (no balance)
Michelle,
May 30, 2008:
Hmm, maybe more a texture difference than taste. I find it quite noticeable. The naked shot seems more ‘fluffy’ (for lack of a better word - maybe aerated?).
With the single, my problem is dosing (I have a Bumper Tamper stand - it’s da bomb), I always manage to overdose the single basket and then over-extract the shot.
I can’t, so don’t, use the single so I’m converting it to naked when my assessments are done. Tested the angle grinder on a spare piece of stainless steel (the group head should be softer) the other day and I reckon with a finer cutting disc it should be no worries. I’ve also got some knock boxes to build for friends - when the uni work is done…
Never bothered with a single basket.
Hard to master - in fact, I’ve yet to taste a single basket shot that was as good as a good double, (If I’m pulling a shot for someone who insists on a ‘weak’ coffee, I usually just pull a ristretto into a slightly larger cup/glass).
But you can use either basket with a nekkid pf.
I don’t bother using anything else other than a naked. With it, I can tell instantly what a shot will be like - and with respect to Michelle, I find it hard to believe there is any difference in the cup.
But Matt: an angle grinder is way overkill. I’ve cut the bottom out of about 12 pf’s now, and a simple hole saw and a cordless drill is just fine, and would give a nicer finish than an angle grinder…
Michelle,
May 30, 2008:
Respect taken, but I’m going to maintain there is a distinct difference in mouthfeel.
Humour me, try them side by side. I’ll have a crack tonight, and report back. Maybe I just never really mastered the nekkid …
Problem is, you can’t tell if the shot is of the same standard with a regular pf
But get Drew to pull them Michelle and you do a blind taste.
Michelle,
May 30, 2008:
Hmm, let Drew pull them you say? ::)
Actually, that’s not a bad idea. I shot them for him and he picked a difference, as did I, but my picking them was invalid and flawed, because I knew which was which.
Or, you pull them, get Drew to do a switch a roo and keep an eye on which is which then you can blind taste. Did you try it? What were the results?
Thanks for the tip Neil. Have drill but no hole saw. Have seen photos on CS on how to do it.
Heh - just searched eBay for a hole saw and discovered that they we’re a jigsaw type thing but drill attachment that I have in the shed - problem solved. I assume I’d need a hack saw blade type rather than one designed for wood. What do you clean up the edges with? Sandpaper?
Hey Matt,
Yep, that’s the beast. Hole saws are fine with timber or a soft metal like brass.
I’ve detailed the process here: http://ministrygrounds.net.au/article/taking-the-hole-saw-to-mr-minore
But you go slow, use the hole in the pf as a guide for the drill bit (put a chunk of scrap timber under the pf) and don’t rush it by pushing too hard. Most of the ones I’ve done took around 8-10 mins of drilling.
I cleaned up the hole with a small file for any pointy bits, then some emery cloth (or a coarse sandpaper).
Sweet.
ditto
That looks unreal!
Hey have you thought about taking the cover off the group handle spouts? Sam and I have done ours. It’s just one screw and means you can see the shot closer to the basket.
Yeah I had, but wasn’t sure about the hole affecting the pour … I take it it doesn’t? I’ll have a crack.
Just put the screw back in after you take off the top thing.
Yeah, that’s what I did.
Thanks for the tip guys.
Personally, I go naked for all my ’spresso these days (naked pf, that is…)
One day will post some photos…
I’m planning on getting my single group handle ‘converted’ to naked. It looks awesome and would make for some great photos!
They look so awesome, don’t they Neil?
I haven’t used my naked PF in aaages. I used to use it exclusively, but stopped when I moved away from drinking milk in coffee. I reckon it tastes brilliant in milk, but I’m not a fan of naked ’spro, I don’t know why, whether it’s the taste or the texture …
Do you use a normal double basket or a triple?
Ah, the single … another thing I am yet to master.
Sorry Guthers, must’ve been typing (#9) at the same time as you, and so it looks like I skipped you, I didn’t mean to
I’m not at all offended!
There is a difference in taste for a naked pf? even with the same basket?!? wow!
I ‘never’ use the single. If I’m making a single coffee I usually take the opportunity to have a double ristretto and I find the single very tough to load and tamp (no balance)
Hmm, maybe more a texture difference than taste. I find it quite noticeable. The naked shot seems more ‘fluffy’ (for lack of a better word - maybe aerated?).
With the single, my problem is dosing (I have a Bumper Tamper stand - it’s da bomb), I always manage to overdose the single basket and then over-extract the shot.
I can’t, so don’t, use the single so I’m converting it to naked when my assessments are done. Tested the angle grinder on a spare piece of stainless steel (the group head should be softer) the other day and I reckon with a finer cutting disc it should be no worries. I’ve also got some knock boxes to build for friends - when the uni work is done…
Never bothered with a single basket.
Hard to master - in fact, I’ve yet to taste a single basket shot that was as good as a good double, (If I’m pulling a shot for someone who insists on a ‘weak’ coffee, I usually just pull a ristretto into a slightly larger cup/glass).
But you can use either basket with a nekkid pf.
I don’t bother using anything else other than a naked. With it, I can tell instantly what a shot will be like - and with respect to Michelle, I find it hard to believe there is any difference in the cup.
But Matt: an angle grinder is way overkill. I’ve cut the bottom out of about 12 pf’s now, and a simple hole saw and a cordless drill is just fine, and would give a nicer finish than an angle grinder…
Respect taken, but I’m going to maintain there is a distinct difference in mouthfeel.
Humour me, try them side by side. I’ll have a crack tonight, and report back. Maybe I just never really mastered the nekkid …
Now, where is my spare LM double basket …
Problem is, you can’t tell if the shot is of the same standard with a regular pf
But get Drew to pull them Michelle and you do a blind taste.
Hmm, let Drew pull them you say? ::)
Actually, that’s not a bad idea. I shot them for him and he picked a difference, as did I, but my picking them was invalid and flawed, because I knew which was which.
Or, you pull them, get Drew to do a switch a roo and keep an eye on which is which then you can blind taste. Did you try it? What were the results?
Thanks for the tip Neil. Have drill but no hole saw. Have seen photos on CS on how to do it.
Heh - just searched eBay for a hole saw and discovered that they we’re a jigsaw type thing but drill attachment that I have in the shed - problem solved. I assume I’d need a hack saw blade type rather than one designed for wood. What do you clean up the edges with? Sandpaper?
oops - I meant ‘weren’t a jigsaw type thing’.
Hey Matt,
Yep, that’s the beast. Hole saws are fine with timber or a soft metal like brass.
I’ve detailed the process here:
http://ministrygrounds.net.au/article/taking-the-hole-saw-to-mr-minore
But you go slow, use the hole in the pf as a guide for the drill bit (put a chunk of scrap timber under the pf) and don’t rush it by pushing too hard. Most of the ones I’ve done took around 8-10 mins of drilling.
I cleaned up the hole with a small file for any pointy bits, then some emery cloth (or a coarse sandpaper).